![]() ![]() (The picture does not show it, but I made sure they were all lined up on the bottom.) After buying about 6 different pairs and sizes, and having the people on the phone tell me that they are all supposed to fit the same, I submitted a question to LLBean customer service online. Yes, that is supposed to be the wide version. The red is the Goretex/thinsulate insole from a 9E. Here is a picture that I took of three insoles on-top of one another. And it is WAY shorter and narrower than the un-insulated 9D. It turns out that a Goretex/Thinsulate 9E is both shorter and narrower (in terms of space on the inside of the boot, not the shell) than the thinsulate 9D. I ordered these things in all different versions and sizes until I had bean boots coming out of my ears. This may seem obvious to some, (because the insulation takes up space and decreases the volume of the boot), but since LLBean didn't mention it on their site I kind of assumed that they made up for the difference by making the insulated boots roomier so that once the insulation is added, a 9D thinsulate would fit the same as a 9D un-insulated. ![]() The un-insulated boot, the thinsulate boot, and the Gortex/thinsulate boot all fit differently. If this conversation is happening, I would like to add some useful info. Here is the long post I did about it a while back: LLBean's fit guide is helpful, but it is really geared toward the uninsulated boot. I posted this a few times before, but just so you know for sizing, the non-insulated, the thinsulate, the gore-tex thinsulate and the shearling all fit differently. With that said, is buying the Goretex version worth it? Is the extra waterproofing it provides necessary? Thanks! TL DR: I live in Southwestern Ontario, in Canada (in a city an hour outside of Toronto) and I'm trying to choose whether it's worth it to get lining with my bean boots, which I plan to wear during the fall/spring in addition to the very cold winters.ĮDIT: (I'm reposting this comment here.) It would seem that the general consensus is that a lined boot is the better option. If you go with the unlined version, what socks do you wear on the coldest days? If you go with a lined version, is Goretex worth it? If you're in an area with similar conditions to those I'm in (even better if you're the same!) I'd love to hear you chime in as to which lining (or lack thereof) works best for you. It'd be greatly appreciated if you could provide input as to which version is best. (If you do this successfully, what socks do you wear?) However I worry that such a decision may lead to cold feet in the very low temperatures I mentioned, even with thick, wooly socks. ![]() I'm currently leaning towards the unlined, because of my preference that I can wear them during the (mostly wet, as opposed to cold) fall/spring in addition to the (cold and wet) winter. The official boot guide recommends the unlined version as the "ultimate bad weather" boot, while jdbee's bean boot guide recommends the Thinsulate/Goretex for "serious winter wear." There are also plenty of other opinions floating about, of course. Looking around this sub quite a bit, there appears to be differing opinions. Where my question comes in with the boots is with regards to which lining type to purchase. I'd like to be able to wear these all winter long, but also comfortably during the fall/spring when we see more rain than snow.Ĩ" looks to be the best height to get. Heavy snow is very common (this has been especially true the past week or so). ![]() For reference, I'm in Southwestern Ontario (in a city an hour outside of Toronto), so while it's not unheard of for temperatures to drop to -20 or -30 degrees Celsius (-4 to -22 degrees Fahrenheit), usually we're down in -10 to 0 degrees Celsius territory (14 to 32 degrees Fahrenheit). Looking to snag a pair of L.L.Bean boots as a "bad weather" boot for up here in Canada. ![]()
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